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the Outlander

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welcome welcome to my awesome a Friday

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evening you are listening to me Heidi

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Hollis

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the Outlander so welcome to the show

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everybody get comfortable it's gonna be

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fun we always have fun here don't we

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I have to tell you guys what this show

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is about because a lot of you don't know

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this show is about bringing outlandish

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and interesting topics to the forefront

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from alias angels ghosts demons holy

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encounter shadow people to Bigfoot to

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the outlandish I always say if it's

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weird we're here and now you are too so

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you are among friends if you don't know

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who I am when it comes to the outlandish

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personally I am someone who has been

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there seen that experienced it freaked

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out found some answers wrote about it

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got over it and now I'm trying to help

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others understand this kooky cookie

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world of ours if you dare go to my main

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website which is Heidi Hollis calm on

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there you will find things about me that

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my parents are beginning to understand I

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think I want to tell you guys how you

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can also hear this program inception

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radio network app that is an awesome app

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that most people seem to listen to this

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program by so I are an app and I mean

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call in to the program at one eight

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and send your questions there also you

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site and there you can post your

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comments and questions just cap

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everything and that's how I could see

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you guys more easily I'm dropping things

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over here that thing hit me but you know

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I have got to tell you guys the

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Outlanders comic the paranormal comic

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strip I'm doing oh my gosh you guys have

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been really really phenomenal I get a

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lot of emails you guys say and I

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doing it and if you haven't checked it

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out go to the main site of in section

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down or you could just type in the

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Outlanders comic comm and you get to

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read all the comics there so essentially

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I have a Bigfoot it has an alien that

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lands it's really disturbing to the

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Bigfoot and he also has some

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homesteaders on the opposite hill so

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he's having to deal with a lot of things

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you know how we all have to do that

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and it's getting animated everybody it's

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getting animated I'm having a good old

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time getting that prepped for that so

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thank you for your support and I'm glad

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that you guys are enjoying it okay so

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now to get to the good and juicy part

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because uh holy smokes I get to have a

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lot of fun with this lady that is coming

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on tonight because we just like chewing

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the fat you guys get to listen in it's

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Maria Dee Jones who is the best-selling

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author of get this over a dozen

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non-fiction books on cutting edge

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science the paranormal unknown anomalies

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and ancient knowledge she's also a

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novelist including why a book series

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where and she and her son this is cool

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her son Max co-authored a middle grade

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novel series and she's also a

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screenwriter and producer she's a little

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busy and she's prepared on over a

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thousand radio shows worldwide and tons

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of TV shows so everybody I like to give

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a warm round of applause for Marie D

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you are crazy busy.i I'm I'm when you're

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Facebook friends and I'm like gosh she's

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doing another what is she what is she

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doing what are you doing Marie and you

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crack me up with your post because

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you're sexy humor is about as wacky as

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mine I love it that's the way I blow up

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steam oh you guys you've got a check her

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PO so she is always cracking jokes and

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I'm just like dying I'm like this woman

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is so wacky I so wish I was her neighbor

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I swear we would you know when you're

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right all day and you're alone writing

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you're just like oh my god

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I need a I need an outlet from the same

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insanity oh I understand but yeah I'm

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just you know I I cannot sit idle and

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it's really bothering me because I

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wanted to like tomorrow I'm going to

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take off because we're having a big

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party and I've got to you know make some

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food and stuff but for me to like not be

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doing 25 things at once it I get anxious

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if but it but at the same time than when

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I do I'm overwhelmed so it's like the

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anxiety oh my god very much like you

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Marie I swear to God I'm like you know I

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want to go and you know hang out like I

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live in Chicago but I'm from Milwaukee

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which isn't that far away and when I go

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I'm thinking god I really want to be

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home so I can finish and work on

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something but it's it you really do need

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to get up and go and do stuff and you

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feel a tug of war so I get it out of the

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house but I just I don't know it's weird

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I feel like at this point if I don't

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just you know keep going keep pushing

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there's there's plenty of time to rest

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later and I just I love working and I

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spend time with my son

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I spend time with my family and my

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friends you know I go out when I need so

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not a big social you know person who

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goes out I'm wrong I'm a real homebody I

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would be a hermit if I could get away

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with it and I'm just you know really

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driven to especially because a couple

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years ago I decided a kind of transition

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out of nonfiction haha and one more my

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third non-fiction book since then but

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the idea was to to do more novels more

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fiction and then I got into doing film

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and TV writing which is just taking off

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like crazy oh you got to tell about that

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a lot of it you know I'm not I'm not

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allowed to but it's the kind of and I've

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been in that industry before when I was

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younger when I was in my 20s I started

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out writing screenplays I lived in LA I

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pitched I went to you know pitch

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meetings with producers and I had

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material optioned and right and it was

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just so cutthroat my name was in my 20s

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and I kind of I I wouldn't say that I

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was dumb

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but I think I was very naive about the

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business and I didn't have the balls

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that I have now let's put it that so you

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know I continued to write but I got into

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writing some fiction and I was doing

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other old you know magazine writing and

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reviews and anything that I could get

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paid for it right and then I stumbled

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into nonfiction and that was about

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fourteen years ago and that's just been

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such an assortment down for me that I

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kept doing it doing it teeth book will

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come out next year so but then a couple

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years ago I just felt like wow I really

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want to kind of go back into that world

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of fiction and in film and TV and

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I really missed it so my manager and my

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agent have really helped me make that

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transition setting me up with projects

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and I've met a lot of people that I am

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now working with as a writer producer

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you might hear my cat wailing I thought

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you had a newborn every time I get on

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state of sleeping for hours how funny he

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you know what my cat used to do is chew

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the cord to my computer when I was on it

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yeah she'll try it she does that mill

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the night batter

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it's just like oh my god you were

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I've been making that the last couple

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years I've just really been non-stop and

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I suspect that that will continue for

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another year or two before I really feel

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like I can pull back on anything and I

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made that commitment I stopped dating I

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said I'm gonna stop dating for two three

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years just so that I'm really focused

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and I actually you know I don't miss it

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and that is a world of fiction but I'm

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really glad that I did that because the

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distraction there's no way I ever would

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have been able to do both yeah but you

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know that next year is when I feel like

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some things will shift so just but

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working my butt off whatever my manager

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or my agent says we need you to do I do

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projects that hopefully this year will

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go into production Wow theory there are

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film what is a television series Caban

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it's based on a cosmetics Empire and I

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can't say the name but people could

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probably figure it out right and I got

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the life rights from one of the

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heiress's to the product the product

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line the brand other one is a political

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drama that is at NBC and it's pretty

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high up and then I worked with a company

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called bright frontier films and have a

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number of projects with them as a writer

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and writer producer one of which should

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be going into production in September

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they or maybe October and then recently

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just within the last maybe three or four

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months - I decided to make an

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independent film with a young filmmaker

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here in San Diego that I knew and we

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kind of wanted to do something together

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we just didn't know what it would look

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like and then

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after that decided to make a short film

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with another group of people because

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even my agent was saying you know you

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can't really depend on the traditional

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way of doing things anymore you have to

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it's just like publishing books the the

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traditional publishing is its first of

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all it's really hard to get a decent

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book deal with an advance oh yes

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celebrity or you know you've got some

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scandalous memoir or something you could

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create one of those come on now what

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swear but you know so then

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self-publishing is just exploded and

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that kind of got out of hand over the

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last couple of years but I think it's

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sort of leveling off for a lot of people

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that really don't belong publishing

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their own is changing you know for the

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first year that I did this where we're

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focusing on TV and features and now

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we're really focusing hard on TV because

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there's so much product needed with

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Netflix and Amazon and Hulu and now

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there's a corn and there's all these

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different YouTube is getting in on the

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game play station is getting original

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programming just announced they made a

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deal with Time Warner who did snapchat

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are you serious I thought they were

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going to make them like five minutes

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small productions but I mean you know so

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talk about 24/7 original content needed

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all the time and it's just such a

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different world when I was younger you

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didn't even think about getting into TV

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it was no no-man's land for new writers

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feature films was was where it's at and

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now it's just completely flipped so you

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kind of have to always be ready for the

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way that the market changes and I'm

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really lucky that I know how to write

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nonfiction fiction films and I've been

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writing a lot of TV pilot so I know how

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to write everything that just comes

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sit your butt down and not having a

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social life yeah that was one of your

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funny post-its um you know and I get

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this too it's like people are like hey

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write my book for me we'll split the

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profits oh please five things in light

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of my omean right right are you serious

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it's like come on now hilarious people

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have a lot of they really do I I mean I

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don't know it's a it's a wild world out

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there but it's true it's like people

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like how do you write a book I'm like

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it's really difficult you sit down and

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yes writing it right but it's the

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stand-down

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that gets them yes exactly making time

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for these this stuff is it is difficult

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it's a challenge for anybody that's

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involved in it so I I get it I mean I'm

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on my 18th non-fiction book and I go

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into massive tailspins of panic and and

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not sleeping you know every single time

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because it doesn't get easier it's just

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I mean it does get easier that you know

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what you're doing but it's still a

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crapload of hard work and I have to say

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this and I don't mean to you know to

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sound arrogant or anything but there are

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not a lot of people go through the world

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willing to do the really hard work very

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true that's why you know you'll find

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people falling by the wayside after oh I

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tried to write a book or I used to I had

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a friend who's no longer in my life and

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hasn't been for years but my god all she

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ever did was simple I wrote a couple of

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books and nobody bought them I'm like

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what do you know I have file cabinets

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full of rejections of things that I've

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tried you don't give up if that's what

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you really want to do you don't get

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actually two books or three or eight you

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keep going and that you know I mean it's

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just a battle that anymore in the world

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yeah I tell people it literally

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took me two months to write my first

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book and four years to get it published

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exactly but you know I I had to go

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through a print-on-demand you know where

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it's like 50/50 at the time where you

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paid half they paid the other half

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publish it and I was like you know I had

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to do something and yeah I I get it it's

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it is not an easy world but you're you

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know the self-publishing thing you know

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for for new writers I don't know what do

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you say to people that are like I want

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to get it out there I tell people to go

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to Amazon route you know to get their

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feet wet and self-publishing so I don't

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know it's it's so hard to get the right

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agent to get the end boy do we have a

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fantastic agent we Sharon hey Jenny oh

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my god I love her

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I've been really fortunate you know what

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I tell people first of all you know

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don't be so arrogant to think that just

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because you wrote a book it's ready to

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be published get it edited

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professionally you don't have to pay

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through the nose there's there's good

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editors out there all right have a go my

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god have a decent cover for God's sakes

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don't make it look like you drew and

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crayola yourself edited check it for

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typos a million times because every time

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I have something checked we find 10 20

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more it's not the truth yeah and then I

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use a I'm for I put supervolcano back

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out on my own

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I bought the rights back after my dad

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died and I put it back out although

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there is a publishing company right now

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that took the print version paranoia

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publishing and I'm really good friends

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with them and I love them but so for my

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novels Max and I will be releasing the

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echo book 1 and I also wrote book 2 so

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that will come out a couple of months

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later and what I do is for the print go

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through great space yeah for the for all

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of my digital I go through a pronoun

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they are awesome

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okay and whatever and so pronoun and you

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just look up pronoun book

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and you'll find it and they though they

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format everything for you properly and

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what they do is and they don't take any

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money from you they might the money they

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earn is from advertising night I would

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imagine but they put you you could

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choose what outlet you want them to go

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to and they all the accounting comes in

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you know I'm constantly making a little

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bit of money so and I just love them and

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and my manager turned me on to them so

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I'm going to use them for everything and

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then draft2digital

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is another really good source they do

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yes we gotta get to our first break

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Murray sorry

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I said you guys do listen to me how you

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welcome back everybody you are listening

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to me Heidi house the Outlander

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remembering always if it's weird we're

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here that's why Murray's here I'm just

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kidding I still refuse to look up at the

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ceiling well you have to share about I

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guess demons and you said somebody had

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sent you a report of their experience

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with some kind of demon coming yeah oh

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yeah there's some good juicy one yeah

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and and so we were talking about that

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and that you know I just have never

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forgotten that I left the stain on you

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because I think we were talking about

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how you always serve things coming out

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of the closet or under the bed right

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boots and that kind of stuff and so to

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hear of something that comes down from

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the ceiling and we're trying to figure

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out why you know are they coming from

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the sky I mean that would be the only

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reason I could think to go climb on the

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roof and come down through the ceiling

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it was it was summer yeah don't look up

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that much

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so in the house see so they're always

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there yeah you know as much as I say oh

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I don't believe this kind of stuff it's

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all you know yeah you know this is the

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interesting part you guys okay if you

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haven't gone to Murray site it's Murray

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D isn't David that's not her middle name

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though Jones my middle name starts with

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the D - and I say D isn't David but

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doesn't my middle name so I always say

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that she's got books on UFOs ghosts

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aliens super volcanoes about God I mean

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science I mean do you run the gamut

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and and it's like but you have this very

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scientific mind and it's not because

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it's not that I don't believe these

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things exist but I don't like the way

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that people just automatically you know

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you see a likeness guy it is a UFO it is

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a unidentified flying object that

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doesn't mean it's an alien craft from

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you know this lluvia or whatever it

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people jump to these conclusions with

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ghosts and apparitions oh they're evil

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demons coming to you know with no idea

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what they are so why don't we start with

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trying to see if there's any kind of

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science behind the behavior you know

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Kenickie visions that we're getting of

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something going on in a parallel

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timeline or a parallel universe er is it

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a you know something the mind is at

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resonance are we

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syncing up with a different frequency

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where this kind of stuff all this sudden

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can be perceived by the human brain

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there's so many different questions that

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we can ask before we start saying oh

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it's a ghost there are it's a demon and

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so I get really frustrated when people

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just have that knee-jerk explanation of

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what things are

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um now I get that from your dad right I

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got that for my dad

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no matter moms my god my creativity for

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my mom so I'm really lucky I got the

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creativity the writing the storytelling

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and then my dad was a geophysicist and

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I'm seismologist I got all I had such a

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love for earth sciences and astronomy

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and all that stuff back up but here's

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the funny thing my dad was a huge UFO

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buff big-time and he also believed in

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the paranormal but again because there

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was a scientist he always approached it

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from well there is a science to all this

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we just don't know what it is yet so

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don't make assumptions but what I have

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you know distinct memory of being maybe

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six or seven years old

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it would I grew up in New York and we

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were in the kitchen my dad had some of

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his scientist colleagues over one was an

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oceanographer I know that I think the

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rest of them were probably geologists or

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geophysicist sitting around our little

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round kitchen table and I was sitting on

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the floor at my dad's feet listening to

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them talk about UFOs that stayed with me

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all my life oh they're brilliant

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scientists you know these really they

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really were and here they are talking

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about UFOs and I remember years later

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asking my dad you know why is why do

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people new UFO community have such an

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aversion to scientists and it's just

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really that you know if you're in

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science or if you're a professor or

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you're in teaching you know college

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professor what have you that's not the

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kind of stuff that you until fairly

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recently could openly admit to believing

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in so it's the kind of thing you talked

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about over you know cigarettes and and

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beer around the kitchen table I mean now

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yes you know now we have businesses

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writing pop no well pop you have popular

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mainstream books right or they're

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talking about things that could be

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deemed paranormal

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so it's definitely changed but in the

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halls of you know science and academia

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you really were not supposed to be real

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open with that and so I think scientists

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got this sort of bad rap as being you

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know I remember years ago and I'm sure

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you do too the paranormal community was

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so anti science oh yes they were making

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the assumption that scientists were anti

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apparent paranormal community and they

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were to an extent only because there are

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so many idiots in the paranormal

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community perhaps yeah there's a few of

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them out there that could make us all

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look bad and then we're forever

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referenced you know with that one

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wackadoodle person it's like come on now

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no it's really not unfortunately you

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know no you've been writing on some

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really SuperDuper dark stuff as of late

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that it's gonna be coming out later on

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this year of the demonic nature what was

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approaches it by a publisher called

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visible ink press they do wonderful big

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giant almost encyclopedic books and the

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subject matter was the history of demons

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the devil and fallen angels and what I

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liked about it is that they wanted a

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comprehensive look at where these

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concepts came from so you know I the

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book starts really with going all the

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way back to the first mentions of these

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words you know in any language I was

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like to look at the word history of a

538
00:26:49,710 --> 00:26:47,260
subject because you can learn so much

539
00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:49,720
about them about them that way and

540
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:51,820
through religion

541
00:26:59,010 --> 00:26:55,200
myth all the way up to modern-day

542
00:27:00,720 --> 00:26:59,020
pop-culture modern Satanism oh I go

543
00:27:03,150 --> 00:27:00,730
through you know the Inquisition the

544
00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:03,160
witchcraft burning years the whole nine

545
00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:06,190
yards the book is so comprehensive that

546
00:27:11,790 --> 00:27:09,580
if you said to Lisa Hagin who's our

547
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:11,800
agent her shirred agent

548
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:16,150
oh yeah Marie enjoy writing that tell

549
00:27:25,950 --> 00:27:19,330
you how many times I wanted to kill

550
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:25,960
myself because it's so dark well it

551
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,570
wasn't that so much as how you know it

552
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:30,640
was like twice the size of the normal

553
00:27:40,620 --> 00:27:36,160
books that I write about and I still

554
00:27:43,230 --> 00:27:40,630
have that went on for quite a while and

555
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:43,240
eventually I ended up finding so many

556
00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:46,450
things that were associated with one of

557
00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:48,760
the three including our you know

558
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:52,300
obsession with them in in movies and TV

559
00:27:58,620 --> 00:27:56,080
and books and and mythology in fairy

560
00:27:59,730 --> 00:27:58,630
tales all nine yards so when I first

561
00:28:03,390 --> 00:27:59,740
started to write it though I had a

562
00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:03,400
couple of people warned me that you know

563
00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:05,260
you shouldn't be doing that make sure

564
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:07,150
you protect yourself all of them like I

565
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:12,130
don't believe in the religious beliefs

566
00:28:18,090 --> 00:28:15,490
I'm not a Christian I don't believe that

567
00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:18,100
you know what Christians believe about

568
00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:19,630
demons and now that I've written this

569
00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:22,420
book I believe it even less what is I

570
00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:25,180
saw where they originate from I mean

571
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:28,780
they originated from our primitive need

572
00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:32,640
to categorize the world around us as

573
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:35,470
beneficial to our survival or

574
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:37,510
detrimental to our survival

575
00:28:43,620 --> 00:28:40,450
so the beneficial became good and we

576
00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:43,630
ascribed gods and goddesses and you know

577
00:28:49,650 --> 00:28:46,900
fairies and whatnot to the good things

578
00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:49,660
that happened procreation finding food

579
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:53,380
finding shelter and all the icky stuff

580
00:29:00,270 --> 00:28:56,320
that we didn't understand death being

581
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:00,280
eaten by wildebeests you know lightning

582
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:02,410
and volcanoes and earthquakes we

583
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:05,570
ascribed bad deities to

584
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:08,960
demons and and then you know all kinds

585
00:29:14,350 --> 00:29:11,690
of stuff and how religion helped evolve

586
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:14,360
that over time so when you go back and

587
00:29:19,630 --> 00:29:16,720
you look at how all of that started with

588
00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:19,640
just our basic need to understand nature

589
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:22,940
and categorize it it took the fairway

590
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:25,760
for me I didn't have any problems except

591
00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:28,010
some technical issues which I have all

592
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:32,620
the time anyway because I think first

593
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:34,910
looking at one of your titles of your

594
00:29:42,850 --> 00:29:36,410
book looking for God in all the wrong

595
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,860
places and I like well she was yeah that

596
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:44,480
was the very first non-fiction book I

597
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:47,690
ever wrote and it's kind of a fun sort

598
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:51,710
of spiritual commentary on however we're

599
00:29:56,620 --> 00:29:54,080
always looking for and not just God but

600
00:29:58,450 --> 00:29:56,630
all good stuff outside of ourselves and

601
00:30:01,390 --> 00:29:58,460
we'd never look within you know it's

602
00:30:04,570 --> 00:30:01,400
just a very simple book that actually

603
00:30:07,930 --> 00:30:04,580
got me Lisa as my agent even though the

604
00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:07,940
book sold I think 40 copies but it led

605
00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:11,150
to science which was my biggest you know

606
00:30:19,330 --> 00:30:14,750
that book turn everything around for me

607
00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:19,340
I loved that book shock that I got to

608
00:30:25,450 --> 00:30:23,390
write that book Lisa I had just signed

609
00:30:28,270 --> 00:30:25,460
with her I she said what do you want to

610
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:28,280
write I said I want to write a book

611
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:30,530
about quantum physics in the paranormal

612
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:34,730
and I you know she said I don't think

613
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,170
any publisher will take it you're not

614
00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:38,240
qualified you're not a you know heir of

615
00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:40,670
a PhD blah blah blah three months later

616
00:30:45,490 --> 00:30:42,680
we had the deal with new page and it's

617
00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:45,500
because she and I both absolutely

618
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:48,500
believed in that book and new page did

619
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:51,290
too and I'm so grateful for them but I

620
00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:53,090
mean I'm not saying that demons don't

621
00:30:59,710 --> 00:30:56,140
exist because I will never say never

622
00:31:02,590 --> 00:30:59,720
especially you know scientifically if we

623
00:31:08,290 --> 00:31:02,600
do believe that there are infinite

624
00:31:11,020 --> 00:31:08,300
number of pairs I just laugh at myself

625
00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:11,030
here it's myself here Bob you just wrote

626
00:31:22,270 --> 00:31:18,460
the encyclopedia on demons is that

627
00:31:25,270 --> 00:31:22,280
absolutely fascinated by their real

628
00:31:29,860 --> 00:31:25,280
origin and I got to go into that in

629
00:31:33,490 --> 00:31:29,870
every every region of the earth has

630
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:33,500
their own version of the same demons

631
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:36,650
that represent the same things and they

632
00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:39,650
we you know all religions and myths and

633
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:43,460
and origin stories have a concept of

634
00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:44,810
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641
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642
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:03,230
hell got associated with punishment and

643
00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:08,210
sin and I love digging into the

644
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:12,040
historical origins of subjects and that

645
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:15,170
is what made the books so fascinating

646
00:32:22,930 --> 00:32:18,410
but it took so much of the fairway for

647
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:22,940
me Wow cool however having said that I

648
00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:26,930
still believe that human beings are the

649
00:32:32,910 --> 00:32:28,030
conduits

650
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:32,920
for different types of energy now dark

651
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:35,930
destructive violent energy I am pretty

652
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:39,290
sure we see the demonic portrayed in

653
00:32:46,510 --> 00:32:42,890
human behavior every day in the news so

654
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:46,520
that's more more of my fear lies but it

655
00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:48,530
was just absolutely fascinating I mean

656
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:50,750
during you know the witch burning years

657
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:52,910
and the Middle Ages into the in the dark

658
00:32:59,530 --> 00:32:54,770
ages and the Inquisition's mother well

659
00:33:01,150 --> 00:32:59,540
basically if you're odd in any way you

660
00:33:03,820 --> 00:33:01,160
were thought to be possessed by the

661
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:03,830
devil or demons and you know you were

662
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:05,990
burned or put to death or you were if

663
00:33:10,390 --> 00:33:08,000
you're a woman you were beaten and raped

664
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:10,400
and tortured you and I would not be in

665
00:33:17,290 --> 00:33:13,910
an occurrence we would have been would

666
00:33:28,060 --> 00:33:17,300
have been locked up actually no you and

667
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:28,070
I would have led the rebellion you know

668
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:31,130
reading some of the history of just a

669
00:33:35,070 --> 00:33:31,510
few

670
00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:35,080
if you got your period how you you were

671
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:38,200
treated as you know filled with demons

672
00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:45,490
and yeah if you meant any kind of

673
00:33:51,870 --> 00:33:47,950
deformity and it just shows the

674
00:33:56,850 --> 00:33:51,880
ignorance of humanity that's behind so

675
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:56,860
much of this so do you feel that with

676
00:34:02,970 --> 00:33:59,290
some of this negative energy that man

677
00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:02,980
you feel created that it would actually

678
00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:06,190
manifest and say possess a person and

679
00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:10,929
cause them to levitate and speak and I

680
00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:15,700
think you know people have like this

681
00:34:19,889 --> 00:34:17,800
image of God right as the old white guy

682
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:19,899
with the beard and in the same way they

683
00:34:28,290 --> 00:34:22,960
have an image of demons as you know that

684
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:28,300
with horns and a spiketail and the whole

685
00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:30,790
room that's right in you know yeah and

686
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:32,740
that to me it's just ridiculous cuz

687
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:34,690
those images when you look at the

688
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:36,129
history you kind of see where they came

689
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:39,730
from but when you look at what's

690
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:42,730
happening around us in the world it does

691
00:34:48,570 --> 00:34:45,850
seem like people are either inherently

692
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:48,580
born with this kind of energy flowing

693
00:34:52,619 --> 00:34:50,409
through their veins which i think is

694
00:34:56,970 --> 00:34:52,629
partially true but you know definitely

695
00:35:00,450 --> 00:34:56,980
there could be energy that we are kind

696
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:00,460
of immersed in and we either resonate

697
00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:05,650
with neutral energy the positive you

698
00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:08,380
know happy uplifting energy or the

699
00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:10,900
negative and dark and I kind of you know

700
00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:12,790
I love the Star Wars movies because I

701
00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:15,220
think the force is one of the best

702
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:19,120
descriptions ever of what that energy is

703
00:35:31,590 --> 00:35:28,350
like you know obi-wan Kenobi's it's

704
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:31,600
neutral you you know you can use the

705
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:33,310
force for evil or good or you could just

706
00:35:37,350 --> 00:35:36,130
ignore it all together and I love that

707
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:37,360
cuz I thought well you know

708
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:41,250
scientifically that that's palatable to

709
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:44,770
scientists because you know you take

710
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:45,550
away the

711
00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:47,710
the judgmental or white guy with his

712
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:51,430
choir of angels that are deciding that

713
00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:53,650
this little baby should die and you know

714
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:55,300
but the serial-killer to live to be

715
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:57,970
night you know I miss all that words

716
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:00,160
like I can't not make sense of this and

717
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:03,150
I really need to make sense of things

718
00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:06,010
for you you know I cover the topic of

719
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:08,920
shadow people and the hat man and yeah I

720
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:12,580
still had thousands of emails over the

721
00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:15,369
years in regards to these these very

722
00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:18,630
dark entities that people are reporting

723
00:36:25,530 --> 00:36:22,200
you know from Thailand to Greece and

724
00:36:28,670 --> 00:36:25,540
they're describing the same thing a man

725
00:36:32,070 --> 00:36:28,680
in a suit and a hat I mean how do we I

726
00:36:33,870 --> 00:36:32,080
would you know to me it's like I I do

727
00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:33,880
believe that these negative things exist

728
00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:36,190
just to say but how would that be

729
00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:38,350
explained we hire people being able to

730
00:36:45,180 --> 00:36:40,900
see this in their straw hut to New York

731
00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:45,190
City I think and I I've kind of believed

732
00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:50,040
this for a long time that rather than

733
00:36:56,730 --> 00:36:54,700
put a religious connotation on it you

734
00:37:01,230 --> 00:36:56,740
know rather than oh they're Satan's

735
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:01,240
minions from hell to me those are

736
00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:03,640
perfect descriptions of interdimensional

737
00:37:09,859 --> 00:37:06,940
entities IDs and and I've believed that

738
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:09,869
about a lot of UFO sightings

739
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:12,640
you know Jacques Vallee really kind of

740
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:14,650
broke that broke through through that

741
00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:19,180
barrier of and John keel to an extent -

742
00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:21,670
mm-hmm assuming that everything came

743
00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:25,180
from this world this reality and looked

744
00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:26,980
the way that we would expect them to

745
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:28,780
looked and behaved according to our laws

746
00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:31,450
of physics so when you started talking

747
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:34,630
about alternate dimensions and parallel

748
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:37,330
universes and even parallel timelines

749
00:37:43,590 --> 00:37:39,730
and things like that to me that opens

750
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:43,600
the door for things that we do not

751
00:37:50,609 --> 00:37:47,200
normally interact with to interact with

752
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:50,619
us not on a regular basis but they sort

753
00:37:54,450 --> 00:37:52,720
of kind of seep through you know I

754
00:37:58,109 --> 00:37:54,460
remember like when I was really little

755
00:38:00,539 --> 00:37:58,119
CB radios were all the rage and I

756
00:38:02,549 --> 00:38:00,549
at 1:00 and you know you'd have a really

757
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,559
strong signal where you could be talking

758
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:04,960
to someone and somebody else might break

759
00:38:09,059 --> 00:38:06,910
through just for a few seconds here and

760
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:09,069
there crosstalk and I always thought

761
00:38:13,499 --> 00:38:10,569
that's what it was like

762
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:13,509
it's crosstalk between different levels

763
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:16,390
of reality because if you look at a lot

764
00:38:23,279 --> 00:38:18,940
of these entities they don't seem to

765
00:38:26,099 --> 00:38:23,289
behave by the same physical laws of

766
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:26,109
nature that we do you know a lot of

767
00:38:30,769 --> 00:38:28,240
times they pop in and out of existence

768
00:38:33,089 --> 00:38:30,779
just like you or they look like a

769
00:38:37,289 --> 00:38:33,099
projection right movie projection

770
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:37,299
they're not really physically God I'm

771
00:38:40,410 --> 00:38:38,650
just at a loss for words you know you

772
00:38:42,509 --> 00:38:40,420
look you could see through them I need

773
00:38:44,999 --> 00:38:42,519
there to raise this bull but they're not

774
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:45,009
completely solid that's what I want to

775
00:38:49,319 --> 00:38:47,529
say I say you see you're saying that

776
00:38:53,099 --> 00:38:49,329
they may just fall into the category of

777
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:53,109
being a real entity of a sort versus

778
00:39:01,499 --> 00:38:56,170
being a negative presence well I think

779
00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:01,509
they can be both you know certainly if

780
00:39:07,279 --> 00:39:03,700
human beings are capable of good and

781
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:07,289
evil so right the other living thing

782
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:10,089
even a lot of the cryptids that you read

783
00:39:14,190 --> 00:39:11,680
about the reports when people say well

784
00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:14,200
you know I looked at the path and and it

785
00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:15,880
wasn't there and then I looked again and

786
00:39:21,089 --> 00:39:18,180
it was sort of popped there was like a

787
00:39:23,009 --> 00:39:21,099
pop and then there it was but it was

788
00:39:26,729 --> 00:39:23,019
kind of shimmering and then it vanished

789
00:39:28,589 --> 00:39:26,739
though to me that is you know that just

790
00:39:31,289 --> 00:39:28,599
sounds like something coming from

791
00:39:33,390 --> 00:39:31,299
another reality and we know that this is

792
00:39:36,509 --> 00:39:33,400
not the only level of reality we were

793
00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:36,519
sure you might know that oh yeah Emory

794
00:39:43,499 --> 00:39:39,670
believe it or not I saw a bigfoot-like

795
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:43,509
thing appear in somebody's apartment and

796
00:39:51,269 --> 00:39:49,690
shimmy out if you're raising and again

797
00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:51,279
and I also think you know we need to

798
00:39:55,710 --> 00:39:53,950
talk about the physiological side of it

799
00:39:57,509 --> 00:39:55,720
why do you see that but the person

800
00:39:59,460 --> 00:39:57,519
sitting next you doesn't it's not

801
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:59,470
because you're a liar or imagining

802
00:40:04,079 --> 00:39:59,920
things

803
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:04,089
you that align with your environment

804
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:06,430
that allow you to perceive it but the

805
00:40:10,739 --> 00:40:08,650
person sitting next you can and I can do

806
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:10,749
anything from brain chemicals to very

807
00:40:12,930 --> 00:40:11,410
true

808
00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:12,940
believe it or not in essence in that

809
00:40:17,789 --> 00:40:15,670
instance myself and the person set is

810
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:17,799
who sit next to me we both jumped up at

811
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,650
the same time I've stuttered Bob of a

812
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:22,240
Bigfoot and she screamed we were

813
00:40:31,019 --> 00:40:28,049
werewolf kind of perceiving it is that

814
00:40:32,819 --> 00:40:31,029
we did both see the darn thing but there

815
00:40:34,349 --> 00:40:32,829
have been instances where I mean a lot

816
00:40:36,839 --> 00:40:34,359
of times where people don't see what

817
00:40:39,749 --> 00:40:36,849
I've seen and yeah I I think you're

818
00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:39,759
right I mean it it it could be the angle

819
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:41,470
it could be the way that the light you

820
00:40:45,779 --> 00:40:43,450
know hits just right for me versus

821
00:40:48,299 --> 00:40:45,789
another person's eyeball there or it is

822
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:48,309
my own brain chemistry yep t and your

823
00:40:54,329 --> 00:40:52,240
brain yeah it those things fascinating

824
00:40:56,670 --> 00:40:54,339
so much so no I'm not saying that these

825
00:40:58,829 --> 00:40:56,680
things don't exist I just don't like the

826
00:41:01,650 --> 00:40:58,839
way we always kind of narrow-minded ly

827
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:01,660
claim that they're either you know

828
00:41:05,309 --> 00:41:02,650
heaven or hell

829
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:05,319
good and evil demons and angels or

830
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:09,250
whatever we need to expand because

831
00:41:15,870 --> 00:41:11,650
especially those things that don't seem

832
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:15,880
to originate here they really do seem to

833
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:17,710
be coming in and out of another

834
00:41:23,339 --> 00:41:21,460
dimension yeah for lack of a better word

835
00:41:26,099 --> 00:41:23,349
where the hell are they coming from

836
00:41:27,930 --> 00:41:26,109
how are they getting here you know what

837
00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:27,940
is the mechanism that they're using to

838
00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:30,940
appear to us I tell people you know some

839
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,329
things exist without a definition you

840
00:41:39,539 --> 00:41:36,400
know but we had to put it through our

841
00:41:42,029 --> 00:41:39,549
filter and we had to you know say it is

842
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:42,039
this way versus that way and you know it

843
00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:46,089
it's I get it you know it's because we

844
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:49,720
didn't see much still about our the

845
00:41:55,410 --> 00:41:52,720
possibilities of our universe and others

846
00:41:57,329 --> 00:41:55,420
and we we don't even know what reality

847
00:41:59,970 --> 00:41:57,339
is we're still trying to figure that one

848
00:42:02,099 --> 00:41:59,980
out philosophically I would like my

849
00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:02,109
reality to be in San Diego right now I

850
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,390
really love saying a lot of people think

851
00:42:20,539 --> 00:42:18,640
oh well you don't believe I don't

852
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:20,549
believe in it I just don't believe that

853
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:23,470
the trademarked explanation that you

854
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:25,130
hear over and over again

855
00:42:32,890 --> 00:42:27,770
and I honestly really do believe that

856
00:42:35,050 --> 00:42:32,900
our own bodies are half the solution you

857
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:35,060
know because I could be standing next to

858
00:42:39,610 --> 00:42:37,370
you and you could see something and I

859
00:42:42,850 --> 00:42:39,620
don't and the only difference might be

860
00:42:47,410 --> 00:42:42,860
maybe you have more serotonin in your

861
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,420
brain or maybe I you know I'm on my

862
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:49,520
period or whatever and those

863
00:42:57,220 --> 00:42:53,930
physiological changes in us could be the

864
00:42:59,350 --> 00:42:57,230
little doorway that allows one person to

865
00:43:03,910 --> 00:42:59,360
perceive something and the other to be

866
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:03,920
blocked from it makes sense so what do

867
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:06,470
you okay so say you're called upon to

868
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:09,200
speak at the demon convention because

869
00:43:18,370 --> 00:43:16,250
you wrote the encyclopedia you're gonna

870
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:18,380
come in your goth gear and you're gonna

871
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,510
say none of this is real but you'll have

872
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:28,640
a lot to explain a lot of splaining to

873
00:43:33,550 --> 00:43:30,890
do and you know what though I will I

874
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:33,560
will add one little [\h__\h] to that I also

875
00:43:38,170 --> 00:43:36,110
do believe it's possible that if enough

876
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:38,180
people believe in something it will

877
00:43:43,330 --> 00:43:40,970
manifest so it could very well be that

878
00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:43,340
having enough people believe that

879
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:47,590
something is demonic adds to that energy

880
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:49,910
I'm in our thoughts we know there's

881
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:51,770
electrical impulses going on in the

882
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:54,530
brain and our thoughts do have a very

883
00:44:00,700 --> 00:43:58,130
weak energy field but if you have you

884
00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:00,710
know millions of people that are members

885
00:44:08,260 --> 00:44:02,840
of certain religions where they have a

886
00:44:10,270 --> 00:44:08,270
certain belief strong enough absolutely

887
00:44:11,470 --> 00:44:10,280
we better get to our next break you guys

888
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:11,480
you listen to me Heidi Hollis the

889
00:44:19,460 --> 00:44:17,510
welcome back everybody you're listening

890
00:44:21,350 --> 00:44:19,470
to me Heidi Hollis the Outlander and I

891
00:44:24,350 --> 00:44:21,360
have Marie Dee Jones and we are just

892
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:24,360
chewing the fat the demon lady is in the

893
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:26,310
house I thought I was a demon lady well

894
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:29,400
you wrote the encyclopedia on them what

895
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:30,720
is the name of that book are you able to

896
00:44:34,850 --> 00:44:32,610
say cause it's coming out later when I

897
00:44:38,060 --> 00:44:34,860
can that one is called demons the devil

898
00:44:41,630 --> 00:44:38,070
and fallen angels and it's it's really

899
00:44:45,350 --> 00:44:41,640
interesting I just had a good time even

900
00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:45,360
though it was grilling me was such a big

901
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:49,020
book to write it was it was so

902
00:44:54,350 --> 00:44:51,900
interesting to learn the realities

903
00:44:59,770 --> 00:44:54,360
behind I mean I wrote about everything

904
00:45:02,180 --> 00:44:59,780
from cults you know satanic cults and

905
00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:02,190
the churches Satan and you know

906
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:04,260
modern-day Satanism what it really is

907
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:07,170
and what it what it is in which again is

908
00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:10,050
when you see the truth it's so much

909
00:45:15,620 --> 00:45:11,940
different from what the media portrays

910
00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:15,630
it as and what let's see the most and

911
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:18,180
then I read a lot about exorcisms and

912
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:21,270
possession Oh God come on you got to

913
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:23,370
tell us about it's one you've come

914
00:45:28,070 --> 00:45:25,970
across there there are a lot of

915
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,080
exorcisms that I didn't know about I

916
00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:30,960
mean most of them I think for you know

917
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,590
the paranormal person or fan they

918
00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:36,960
they're aware of their work there was

919
00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:39,420
one and I want to say her name was

920
00:45:45,470 --> 00:45:42,660
Latoya I forgot Latoya almonds

921
00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:45,480
AMM ons I believe I forgot a name since

922
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:48,150
I wrote the book quarterly coke but she

923
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:49,650
was an American I think she lived

924
00:45:52,610 --> 00:45:52,020
somewhere in California possibly China

925
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:52,620
remember

926
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:55,170
but anyway her case involved her kids

927
00:46:02,110 --> 00:45:58,800
her mother just a horrible horrible

928
00:46:05,740 --> 00:46:02,120
stuff and involved a number of exorcism

929
00:46:08,210 --> 00:46:05,750
exorcism attempts to get everything

930
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:08,220
straightened out and I think to this day

931
00:46:15,310 --> 00:46:11,850
everything is okay and then you know the

932
00:46:19,850 --> 00:46:15,320
regular the usual suspects possessed

933
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:19,860
houses possessed objects possessed

934
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:25,290
people and you know what the book had to

935
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:27,330
be objective so it

936
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:29,490
like a lot of the other books where I

937
00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:32,010
can speculate and give my opinion

938
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,550
I was able to do that a little bit but

939
00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:37,440
it mostly had to write it objectively

940
00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:39,270
because it was supposed to be sort of

941
00:46:45,020 --> 00:46:41,940
like an encyclopedia you know when did

942
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:45,030
this happen to whom and and what what

943
00:46:49,850 --> 00:46:47,310
was done and who said what this and that

944
00:46:51,770 --> 00:46:49,860
and so doing that it's going to be

945
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:51,780
taking a little bit of a detached step

946
00:46:56,270 --> 00:46:54,480
back was really interesting because I

947
00:46:58,130 --> 00:46:56,280
honestly felt like if I'm going to be

948
00:47:01,250 --> 00:46:58,140
writing about possession and am i

949
00:47:04,370 --> 00:47:01,260
opening myself up to it I think I'm

950
00:47:07,310 --> 00:47:04,380
possessed already but but no no I don't

951
00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:07,320
want you as a writer I think you have to

952
00:47:12,860 --> 00:47:09,870
kind of take on that serve reporter role

953
00:47:16,460 --> 00:47:12,870
and and being detached and being able to

954
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:16,470
step back I think allowed me to to write

955
00:47:22,190 --> 00:47:18,750
about a lot of that and not be afraid or

956
00:47:26,450 --> 00:47:22,200
you know oh my gosh concerned nothing

957
00:47:33,890 --> 00:47:26,460
has happened to me during and since the

958
00:47:35,690 --> 00:47:33,900
only book nothing nothing only books

959
00:47:38,510 --> 00:47:35,700
that I get any kind of harassment for

960
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:38,520
his mind worse and that was I don't know

961
00:47:43,570 --> 00:47:39,870
if we ever talked about that that was

962
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:43,580
the book on mind control surveillance

963
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:47,730
social engineering and cults you know I

964
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:50,130
wrote about Church of Scientology and

965
00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:53,520
they've been harassing me ever since and

966
00:47:57,740 --> 00:47:55,380
I had a lot of weird things happen

967
00:48:00,020 --> 00:47:57,750
during the writing of that book and that

968
00:48:02,180 --> 00:48:00,030
to me really drove home that I think

969
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:02,190
there's so much more to fear from human

970
00:48:09,350 --> 00:48:07,010
beings and then the interdimensional

971
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:09,360
that's not the case for everybody I know

972
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:11,010
that there have been a lot of cases of

973
00:48:18,020 --> 00:48:14,970
people being attacked by by entities and

974
00:48:20,570 --> 00:48:18,030
whatnot and I got one for you

975
00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:20,580
because I have I wrote the book on the

976
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:23,580
Hat man and I was just about to put that

977
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:26,130
book out and you know I'm a practicing

978
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,170
occupational therapist on top of it all

979
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:30,240
and you know I would work in these

980
00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:32,130
different facilities and I go into this

981
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:33,390
one building they're like are you that

982
00:48:37,490 --> 00:48:35,040
crazy lady that writes books on this

983
00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:37,500
stuff I'm like yes I am and like and

984
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:39,720
they ask me what I write about and I

985
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:40,970
mentioned you know

986
00:48:45,099 --> 00:48:43,730
shadow people in the Hat man one of the

987
00:48:47,339 --> 00:48:45,109
therapists had to leave the other one

988
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,349
had to bring another patient down and

989
00:48:51,790 --> 00:48:49,760
have them standing up in the parallel

990
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:51,800
bars to try to get him walking and I

991
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:53,810
heard that they're opposed shriek and

992
00:48:58,750 --> 00:48:56,569
coming run and get me and tells me to

993
00:49:00,910 --> 00:48:58,760
come out there the patient is pointing

994
00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:00,920
in the mirror saying who's that man in

995
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:02,630
that black suit talking to me in another

996
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:03,170
language

997
00:49:08,260 --> 00:49:06,290
he described the Hat man now he did not

998
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:08,270
hear our conversation he was not down

999
00:49:12,579 --> 00:49:10,970
there so it was terrifying it was

1000
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:12,589
horrible and then he came the next day

1001
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:15,920
at the same facility it's crazy I mean I

1002
00:49:27,390 --> 00:49:23,829
here's a funny thing so my sister lives

1003
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:27,400
next door and their house is haunted

1004
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:31,849
it's not a negative haunting but they've

1005
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:34,910
said they've seen the face of the man

1006
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:36,890
who died you know who died quite a while

1007
00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:38,690
ago who lived there before they bought

1008
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:42,920
the house things moving around noises

1009
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:44,810
footsteps going down the hallway door

1010
00:49:50,020 --> 00:49:47,359
slamming down the hall when there's

1011
00:49:51,609 --> 00:49:50,030
nobody but you know one person home and

1012
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:51,619
my brother-in-law was like just a

1013
00:49:56,380 --> 00:49:52,310
die-hard

1014
00:49:58,300 --> 00:49:56,390
skeptic saw the man's face in the mirror

1015
00:50:00,970 --> 00:49:58,310
so you know I mean when you haven't

1016
00:50:05,260 --> 00:50:00,980
happened close to home like that nothing

1017
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,270
sinister though just a presence and so

1018
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:07,280
that you know so then I wonder will

1019
00:50:11,260 --> 00:50:09,290
happen why haven't I had any of these

1020
00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:11,270
experiences because I'm the one writing

1021
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:13,369
about them all trying to figure out what

1022
00:50:20,020 --> 00:50:16,400
they are and I actually think maybe it's

1023
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:20,030
possible that because I'm so in litical

1024
00:50:27,130 --> 00:50:23,569
about everything maybe I block the part

1025
00:50:30,670 --> 00:50:27,140
of my brain that would need to be more

1026
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:30,680
open to be able to perceive it I mean

1027
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:32,930
that's a possibility you know my dad was

1028
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:37,040
the same way he wanted so badly to see

1029
00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:39,050
something or have something happen

1030
00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:41,630
because as a scientist he would then

1031
00:50:48,430 --> 00:50:44,329
have that first-hand experience to sort

1032
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:48,440
of dissect but it never did and so I'm

1033
00:50:52,930 --> 00:50:50,450
wondering if that's part of it

1034
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:52,940
you know do you have to believe in

1035
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:54,490
something in order for

1036
00:51:00,270 --> 00:50:58,690
to manifest are there parts of the brain

1037
00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:00,280
that you know it's like if I'm Way too

1038
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,940
left grained and I'm not engaging like

1039
00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:05,200
you know in the middle of the night when

1040
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:07,030
you wake up you're alright bring your

1041
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:09,240
left brain is is dead to the world

1042
00:51:15,450 --> 00:51:12,400
that's when I kind of think oh my god my

1043
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:15,460
same shadows and hearing noises so no

1044
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:22,210
feeling and I do not look at mirrors so

1045
00:51:28,980 --> 00:51:24,070
there's something else if I'm so

1046
00:51:30,359 --> 00:51:28,990
skeptical about I will not look in the

1047
00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:30,369
mirror if I have to go to the bathroom

1048
00:51:38,970 --> 00:51:35,980
to OB to know you know what could be

1049
00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:38,980
looking back so you know the

1050
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:40,900
possibilities but here where other

1051
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:50,410
realities it's my my you know brain

1052
00:51:56,730 --> 00:51:53,610
that's keeping it from happening but

1053
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:56,740
it's just I I don't really necessarily

1054
00:52:00,240 --> 00:51:58,690
want to see it ghost or anything cuz

1055
00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:00,250
that's like way too close to home you're

1056
00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:04,150
in the house with me no but I would love

1057
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:07,660
to see something in the sky that you

1058
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:12,310
know is so just in your face how can I

1059
00:52:18,590 --> 00:52:15,250
deny with this but as long as it doesn't

1060
00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:18,600
come really close and it doesn't land oh

1061
00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:22,060
my gosh so I don't know I'm just a mixed

1062
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:23,950
up but it's funny because I remember the

1063
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,930
last time I was on the Queen Mary was

1064
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:28,000
quite a while ago it was with Dave

1065
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:30,970
Schrader and he kind of poked me we were

1066
00:52:35,460 --> 00:52:33,040
up on the top of the pool area and

1067
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:35,470
somebody was doing their thing down at

1068
00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:36,880
the bottom trying to communicate with

1069
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:39,070
the little girl her name was supposed to

1070
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:41,890
be Kathy whatever and he kind of poked

1071
00:52:53,370 --> 00:52:44,050
me in the back and I was like what and

1072
00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:53,380
just for that minute I believed but I

1073
00:52:59,970 --> 00:52:56,260
believe I believe in everything that

1074
00:53:04,670 --> 00:52:59,980
everything is possible but I will not

1075
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:08,220
explanation without some kind of

1076
00:53:14,250 --> 00:53:11,410
backing or proof that's where I kind of

1077
00:53:17,130 --> 00:53:14,260
run into trouble with people that are oh

1078
00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:17,140
my god it was a demon you know how do

1079
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:20,200
you know was it your own negative energy

1080
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:25,200
projecting outward you know your your

1081
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:33,569
interdimensional being that you just

1082
00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:35,890
didn't understand but it really wasn't

1083
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:39,700
evil it just was scary you know I don't

1084
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:41,530
want it don't limit it unless you can

1085
00:53:46,290 --> 00:53:43,510
show me proof of what you're saying it

1086
00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:46,300
is right right my goodness

1087
00:53:53,370 --> 00:53:50,079
so you're on one side of the fence or

1088
00:53:56,970 --> 00:53:53,380
well when it comes to this stuff but not

1089
00:54:03,150 --> 00:53:56,980
really I mean you're the site coming

1090
00:54:05,849 --> 00:54:03,160
down you know when it comes to odd

1091
00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:05,859
topics I never aim to go out of my way

1092
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:07,750
to try to prove anything to anybody just

1093
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:09,280
for people that take and weigh their

1094
00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:11,170
options and figure it out for themselves

1095
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:13,150
and I think that's a healthy way to go

1096
00:54:17,309 --> 00:54:15,250
about it too and it's also entirely

1097
00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:17,319
possible that the explanations are

1098
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:20,040
individual wouldn't that be really wild

1099
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:23,050
that our individual realities have the

1100
00:54:27,809 --> 00:54:25,810
power to create yeah we're experiencing

1101
00:54:29,339 --> 00:54:27,819
it's not gonna be the same for the

1102
00:54:31,950 --> 00:54:29,349
person next to us because it's not

1103
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:31,960
supposed to be then those kind of things

1104
00:54:38,250 --> 00:54:34,440
really are fun for me to think about

1105
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:38,260
because it engages us I don't I think

1106
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,450
for me the biggest thing is that I don't

1107
00:54:46,530 --> 00:54:43,119
believe necessarily that these are

1108
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:46,540
things that are happening to us totally

1109
00:54:54,089 --> 00:54:51,280
externally without any input from us you

1110
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:54,099
know it's part of the equation I think

1111
00:54:59,460 --> 00:54:57,130
and and Larry Flaxman and I wrote a book

1112
00:55:02,819 --> 00:54:59,470
called the grid where we talk about the

1113
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:02,829
internal and the external what's going

1114
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:05,200
on physiologically in the human body and

1115
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:07,690
the mind consciousness whatever and

1116
00:55:14,250 --> 00:55:10,240
what's going on it's generally invited

1117
00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:14,260
the environment that perhaps those two

1118
00:55:19,620 --> 00:55:16,420
need to be aligned together in a

1119
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:19,630
particular way for this stuff to be able

1120
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:21,609
to come through the door and

1121
00:55:27,049 --> 00:55:23,710
that's why it's so elusive it's not

1122
00:55:30,180 --> 00:55:27,059
supposed to be a 24/7 part of our lives

1123
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:30,190
because I think we would probably you

1124
00:55:37,769 --> 00:55:34,329
know have an issue go crazy Oh

1125
00:55:39,509 --> 00:55:37,779
many people have I'm sure that you've

1126
00:55:41,579 --> 00:55:39,519
gotten some the emails that I get it's

1127
00:55:43,710 --> 00:55:41,589
like I mean it rips your heart out

1128
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:43,720
people that are aware of other realities

1129
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:47,170
and there's no isolated analyst right

1130
00:55:53,069 --> 00:55:49,569
and they they feel like they can't focus

1131
00:55:54,690 --> 00:55:53,079
on the conscious reality of now where

1132
00:55:56,670 --> 00:55:54,700
they have to work a job and take care of

1133
00:55:59,339 --> 00:55:56,680
their family and their health habla yeah

1134
00:56:02,940 --> 00:55:59,349
that's I think why we may have

1135
00:56:06,269 --> 00:56:02,950
physiologically been built to experience

1136
00:56:08,269 --> 00:56:06,279
this stuff very erratically because

1137
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:08,279
we're not supposed to have that

1138
00:56:13,769 --> 00:56:11,680
happening all the time it's like deja vu

1139
00:56:17,849 --> 00:56:13,779
I love - Oh hugs I think that's such a

1140
00:56:19,769 --> 00:56:17,859
gateway paranormal experience yes I mean

1141
00:56:22,579 --> 00:56:19,779
could you imagine feeling that way all

1142
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:22,589
the time you want to be able to function

1143
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:25,089
correct have it every now and then it's

1144
00:56:29,269 --> 00:56:26,970
just to me like a reminder of hey

1145
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:29,279
there's another level of reality

1146
00:56:34,259 --> 00:56:32,650
operating here peekaboo you know what do

1147
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:34,269
you think they are to me I feel like

1148
00:56:38,430 --> 00:56:35,950
it's letting me know I'm right where I'm

1149
00:56:40,859 --> 00:56:38,440
supposed to be and my deja Vu's let me

1150
00:56:46,499 --> 00:56:40,869
know like what's going to happen next

1151
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,509
it's not yes familiar I always thought

1152
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:48,160
that they were that I was seeing myself

1153
00:56:52,170 --> 00:56:49,680
in a parallel universe

1154
00:56:54,839 --> 00:56:52,180
and were the timeline there was just a

1155
00:56:57,029 --> 00:56:54,849
little bit ahead or the timeline here

1156
00:57:00,450 --> 00:56:57,039
actually because it would be reverse

1157
00:57:02,989 --> 00:57:00,460
so I me here in this reality would be

1158
00:57:05,549 --> 00:57:02,999
like a fraction of a second ahead of

1159
00:57:08,339 --> 00:57:05,559
what I was having the deja vu the other

1160
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:08,349
reality and that's why you can kind of

1161
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:10,210
predict what the next words are going to

1162
00:57:14,970 --> 00:57:12,160
be out of the person's mouth while

1163
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:14,980
you're having deja vu or oh and deja vu

1164
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:17,470
that door open the door opened so

1165
00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:19,089
there's a little really you know

1166
00:57:23,579 --> 00:57:21,249
fraction of a second precognitive

1167
00:57:26,690 --> 00:57:23,589
element to it that I think is so

1168
00:57:30,059 --> 00:57:26,700
indicative of the fact that we might be

1169
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:30,069
and come on you know physicists are

1170
00:57:34,420 --> 00:57:32,170
saying that there may be an infinite

1171
00:57:37,390 --> 00:57:34,430
number of parallel universes and we

1172
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:37,400
are going to exist in an awful lot of

1173
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:38,089
them

1174
00:57:43,059 --> 00:57:41,210
so what stops the one where we're almost

1175
00:57:45,730 --> 00:57:43,069
doing the exact same thing that we're

1176
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:45,740
doing in this one from manifesting every

1177
00:57:49,180 --> 00:57:47,030
now and then through day show though

1178
00:57:51,609 --> 00:57:49,190
it's almost like maybe our brains are

1179
00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:51,619
thinking up the two universes just for a

1180
00:57:55,150 --> 00:57:52,640
few seconds

1181
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:55,160
but you know it makes sense now I don't

1182
00:57:59,230 --> 00:57:57,200
know if you heard this but other

1183
00:58:02,470 --> 00:57:59,240
universes are going to become our

1184
00:58:04,329 --> 00:58:02,480
reality soon I hope I'm sure you've

1185
00:58:06,370 --> 00:58:04,339
heard the chatter about the secret space

1186
00:58:08,020 --> 00:58:06,380
program and how we've been going out to

1187
00:58:11,859 --> 00:58:08,030
the moon and whatever for a long time

1188
00:58:14,620 --> 00:58:11,869
just not announcing it well

1189
00:58:17,410 --> 00:58:14,630
the hacktivist group whom i had on i had

1190
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:17,420
a representative from anonymous come on

1191
00:58:24,579 --> 00:58:20,329
my show a few weeks ago it was really

1192
00:58:26,380 --> 00:58:24,589
cool and and they have released that you

1193
00:58:28,030 --> 00:58:26,390
know they'd like to tap into NASA every

1194
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:28,040
once in a while the hacktivists group

1195
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:33,050
right what's going on they said it looks

1196
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:37,250
like NASA is preparing to announce that

1197
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:39,530
aliens are in existence and they have

1198
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:40,970
found some other colonies

1199
00:58:45,549 --> 00:58:43,040
that's something yeah I heard that

1200
00:58:47,170 --> 00:58:45,559
what's his name Steven Greer I see the

1201
00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:47,180
one that I see all the time talking

1202
00:58:52,690 --> 00:58:49,369
about this big announcement coming and

1203
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:52,700
disclose TV is always talking about it

1204
00:58:57,579 --> 00:58:55,280
on Facebook the only problem I have with

1205
00:58:59,170 --> 00:58:57,589
that is that I've heard it before you

1206
00:59:01,329 --> 00:58:59,180
know we've heard that claim before

1207
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:01,339
disclosure is imminent it's gonna happen

1208
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:03,200
it was supposed to happen at the next

1209
00:59:06,849 --> 00:59:05,359
the last election it was supposed to

1210
00:59:10,359 --> 00:59:06,859
happen when Barack Obama got elected

1211
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:10,369
we're gonna finally have disclosure I'll

1212
00:59:18,819 --> 00:59:16,730
believe it when I see it we'll do a show

1213
00:59:23,740 --> 00:59:18,829
that will be so bad but the battle I

1214
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:23,750
have is the human reaction right I think

1215
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,240
about this before how many people would

1216
00:59:30,730 --> 00:59:28,640
get how do you think they would respond

1217
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:30,740
I I think people are handling it okay

1218
00:59:37,180 --> 00:59:32,690
that are in the military so why wouldn't

1219
00:59:39,730 --> 00:59:37,190
the public do okay fundamentalist

1220
00:59:43,299 --> 00:59:39,740
religious people who have their concept

1221
00:59:45,250 --> 00:59:43,309
of God in creation you're gonna put them

1222
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:45,260
in arena and we're gonna lock the doors

1223
00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:52,169
politically there may be jockeying for

1224
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:55,910
well who's gonna get to you know cozy up

1225
01:00:01,959 --> 00:59:58,400
to these aliens and and strike some

1226
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:01,969
deals with weapons deals with them I'm

1227
01:00:07,689 --> 01:00:03,650
naturally laughing but it's it's you

1228
01:00:09,669 --> 01:00:07,699
know it's true yeah I think yeah is it

1229
01:00:11,439 --> 01:00:09,679
gonna change the is it gonna change our

1230
01:00:13,419 --> 01:00:11,449
day to day lives to the point where

1231
01:00:15,189 --> 01:00:13,429
you'll have a lot of people panicking

1232
01:00:18,219 --> 01:00:15,199
because well do we know for sure that

1233
01:00:20,499 --> 01:00:18,229
they're friends or maybe I better stock

1234
01:00:22,749 --> 01:00:20,509
up on food and water just in case and

1235
01:00:27,459 --> 01:00:22,759
you know go get all my cash out of the

1236
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:27,469
bank and III I don't hate to say it but

1237
01:00:38,469 --> 01:00:31,130
I don't have a lot of faith in humanity

1238
01:00:40,660 --> 01:00:38,479
that they would respond accordingly some

1239
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:40,670
of us would go oh yeah alright big deal

1240
01:00:46,349 --> 01:00:43,729
we knew you know Marie I think we'll be

1241
01:00:54,009 --> 01:00:46,359
fine once we see what they taste like

1242
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:54,019
come on the grill if it was barbecue or

1243
01:01:00,400 --> 01:00:57,170
teriyaki sauce and then we'll figure out

1244
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:00,410
how we want to work things out no carbs

1245
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:09,120
piece of toast in all of California I'm

1246
01:01:15,339 --> 01:01:13,130
swear I just went there recently and I'm

1247
01:01:23,319 --> 01:01:15,349
like anybody got a piece of good Lord

1248
01:01:30,849 --> 01:01:23,329
where's the breadbasket be skinny

1249
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:30,859
forever this way to goodness yeah I just

1250
01:01:37,719 --> 01:01:35,689
you know I don't know anything really

1251
01:01:39,579 --> 01:01:37,729
big happens in the world everybody comes

1252
01:01:41,859 --> 01:01:39,589
together and then two weeks later

1253
01:01:44,199 --> 01:01:41,869
everybody wants to kill each other right

1254
01:01:45,819 --> 01:01:44,209
now after 9/11 everybody came together

1255
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:45,829
for like a week or two

1256
01:01:51,130 --> 01:01:48,410
and then let's kill the Muslims let's

1257
01:01:54,519 --> 01:01:51,140
kill all the blogs let's kill no and

1258
01:02:00,009 --> 01:01:54,529
then we become our normal selves so

1259
01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:00,019
hopefully the good daddy where do babies

1260
01:02:05,620 --> 01:02:01,910
come from

1261
01:02:08,439 --> 01:02:05,630
well honey mommy went to the store oh

1262
01:02:12,279 --> 01:02:08,449
well you see um well there's a mommy and

1263
01:02:13,089 --> 01:02:12,289
a daddy right and see when they call

1264
01:02:15,219 --> 01:02:13,099
Geico

1265
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:15,229
they could save a bunch of money on car

1266
01:02:18,910 --> 01:02:16,640
insurance oh really

1267
01:02:21,939 --> 01:02:18,920
and that makes them happy yes that makes

1268
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:21,949
them very happy that's good yeah well

1269
01:02:24,999 --> 01:02:23,089
I'm glad we could have this talk

1270
01:02:26,620 --> 01:02:25,009
sunshine Geico

1271
01:02:29,529 --> 01:02:26,630
because saving 15% or more on car

1272
01:02:33,759 --> 01:02:29,539
insurance is always a great answer rise

1273
01:02:35,289 --> 01:02:33,769
above but I don't know that's kind and I

1274
01:02:39,699 --> 01:02:35,299
think disclosure is such a fascinating

1275
01:02:42,219 --> 01:02:39,709
subject because of wondering how not

1276
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:42,229
just how it's gonna play out or what the

1277
01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:44,329
aliens quote-unquote would be like but

1278
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:47,839
how humanity will well accept it

1279
01:02:52,749 --> 01:02:49,910
deal with it know I'll be passing the

1280
01:02:58,959 --> 01:02:52,759
kool-aid out you know it but the rest of

1281
01:03:02,559 --> 01:02:58,969
us okay I mean I don't know you might

1282
01:03:04,449 --> 01:03:02,569
just have more faith in humanity I'm

1283
01:03:06,039 --> 01:03:04,459
just gonna push them off the edge of the

1284
01:03:16,420 --> 01:03:06,049
planet if they can't get with the

1285
01:03:19,209 --> 01:03:16,430
program that's all really interesting if

1286
01:03:20,979 --> 01:03:19,219
there was some truth to the fact that it

1287
01:03:24,849 --> 01:03:20,989
you know it's supposed to happen soon

1288
01:03:27,249 --> 01:03:24,859
cuz I feel like maybe ninety and they're

1289
01:03:31,539 --> 01:03:27,259
gonna be saying yes well disclosure is

1290
01:03:34,359 --> 01:03:31,549
imminent yes that way 20 years ago I

1291
01:03:35,859 --> 01:03:34,369
haven't I haven't seen anonymous making

1292
01:03:37,959 --> 01:03:35,869
announcement before like that I don't

1293
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:37,969
know I'm just getting more attuned to

1294
01:03:43,749 --> 01:03:40,569
them and I mean they don't make a

1295
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,759
something they found I don't know

1296
01:03:46,989 --> 01:03:45,440
because they mean a lot of times they

1297
01:03:49,779 --> 01:03:46,999
make claims and then you never hear

1298
01:03:51,759 --> 01:03:49,789
again what you know what's like what's

1299
01:03:54,309 --> 01:03:51,769
going on if WikiLeaks says that I'll

1300
01:03:57,130 --> 01:03:54,319
believe it and I will panic and actually

1301
01:04:00,279 --> 01:03:57,140
the funny thing is is that the WikiLeaks

1302
01:04:04,689 --> 01:04:00,289
documents there was an awful lot of

1303
01:04:06,699 --> 01:04:04,699
stuff about UFOs and aliens so that does

1304
01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:06,709
you know that does kind of give me pause

1305
01:04:13,299 --> 01:04:10,640
because there's obviously a secret

1306
01:04:14,580 --> 01:04:13,309
program big quotation marks around

1307
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:14,590
program

1308
01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:16,720
that's been going on forever we kind we

1309
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:19,270
knew that you know we do right we just

1310
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:22,650
maybe don't know are still are they

1311
01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:26,050
friends or are they foe or they neither

1312
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:29,980
or are they you know even humanoid or

1313
01:04:35,390 --> 01:04:33,610
what but we'll see I just remember right

1314
01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:35,400
like right before Obama got elected

1315
01:04:42,180 --> 01:04:39,070
there was so much buzz in the UFO

1316
01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:42,190
community about disclosure and then in

1317
01:04:46,740 --> 01:04:44,470
this election when they thought it was

1318
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:46,750
going to be Hillary if she you know that

1319
01:04:52,290 --> 01:04:49,930
she had even said I will oh you know

1320
01:04:56,550 --> 01:04:52,300
disclose and of course no president can

1321
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:56,560
do that it's not up to them so I don't

1322
01:05:00,720 --> 01:04:58,090
know maybe we're at a point where it's

1323
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:00,730
just gonna happen because so many people

1324
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:03,310
already kind of suspect what's going on

1325
01:05:07,230 --> 01:05:04,810
either you tell us the truth

1326
01:05:10,170 --> 01:05:07,240
or you're gonna be dealing with the

1327
01:05:13,170 --> 01:05:10,180
fallout of people believing a million

1328
01:05:16,740 --> 01:05:13,180
different lies which I don't know is

1329
01:05:20,130 --> 01:05:16,750
such a good thing yeah very true well

1330
01:05:21,690 --> 01:05:20,140
you know I have to ask you are a busy

1331
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:21,700
lady I bet you're typing up on a book

1332
01:05:34,590 --> 01:05:30,590
I knew it I knew it

1333
01:05:36,420 --> 01:05:34,600
tentacles are working what what what are

1334
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:36,430
your next projects I mean that I mean

1335
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:37,690
you you're pretty busy with your

1336
01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:39,280
television series I mean they are

1337
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:41,230
they're happening these there's two of

1338
01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:43,810
them they're happening there's three in

1339
01:05:48,090 --> 01:05:45,670
particular that look like they're gonna

1340
01:05:51,810 --> 01:05:48,100
happen but again never you know I'm not

1341
01:05:53,670 --> 01:05:51,820
gonna I'm I'm excited but I'm also

1342
01:05:57,210 --> 01:05:53,680
tempered because I've been down this

1343
01:05:59,070 --> 01:05:57,220
road many times so the demon book will

1344
01:06:03,180 --> 01:05:59,080
come out in September the power of

1345
01:06:05,540 --> 01:06:03,190
archetypes comes out later in July and

1346
01:06:07,980 --> 01:06:05,550
the book that I'm working on now is a

1347
01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:07,990
completely different thing it is an

1348
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:11,230
emergency survival manual because I'm

1349
01:06:18,180 --> 01:06:14,410
trained in disaster preparedness and

1350
01:06:19,830 --> 01:06:18,190
response through FEMA through their cert

1351
01:06:21,810 --> 01:06:19,840
program which is Community Emergency

1352
01:06:25,690 --> 01:06:21,820
Response Teams I have training in

1353
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:25,700
everything and so I I was

1354
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:28,610
approach to write again an encyclopedic

1355
01:06:35,170 --> 01:06:31,070
manual of how to survive different

1356
01:06:37,180 --> 01:06:35,180
disasters and emergency situations say

1357
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:37,190
it's not paranormal at all

1358
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:40,160
are you sure because Jesse Ventura says

1359
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:43,280
they're gathering those FEMA camps right

1360
01:06:50,890 --> 01:06:46,640
as we speak to throw us in them they

1361
01:06:53,530 --> 01:06:50,900
said that like 10 years ago they said

1362
01:06:55,690 --> 01:06:53,540
that five years ago they said that three

1363
01:07:01,260 --> 01:06:55,700
years ago yeah they said that during

1364
01:07:10,390 --> 01:07:01,270
what was it the the drill Jade Oh God

1365
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:10,400
the Jade drills few years ago these

1366
01:07:14,830 --> 01:07:12,650
camps are popping over all over I mean

1367
01:07:16,750 --> 01:07:14,840
she went you know there's one out here

1368
01:07:19,570 --> 01:07:16,760
there's one out in Menifee here just

1369
01:07:27,150 --> 01:07:19,580
east of me oh you'll be safely taken

1370
01:07:31,090 --> 01:07:27,160
care of over there then they're more for

1371
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:31,100
deportation of immigrants had if the you

1372
01:07:34,830 --> 01:07:33,170
know immigration laws got ever got

1373
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:34,840
really strict but I don't know who knows

1374
01:07:39,580 --> 01:07:37,520
who knows what they could be but the

1375
01:07:42,460 --> 01:07:39,590
thing is is you know survivalists and

1376
01:07:45,340 --> 01:07:42,470
Preppers they actually are not as crazy

1377
01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:45,350
as we think they are and so I joined

1378
01:07:48,610 --> 01:07:47,240
some prepper communities just to learn

1379
01:07:59,340 --> 01:07:48,620
about what are some of the ways that

1380
01:08:03,610 --> 01:08:02,020
I went through so many earthquakes and I

1381
01:08:06,010 --> 01:08:03,620
worked for Warner Brothers and as a

1382
01:08:10,210 --> 01:08:06,020
company they wanted every employee

1383
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:10,220
trained in surviving an emergency so I

1384
01:08:18,850 --> 01:08:12,110
got training through Burbank firemen

1385
01:08:26,110 --> 01:08:18,860
police office no problem I rescue your

1386
01:08:28,330 --> 01:08:26,120
butt in any situation any with a son who

1387
01:08:30,370 --> 01:08:28,340
had a disability I was like there's no

1388
01:08:32,350 --> 01:08:30,380
way I'm ever gonna be helpless I'm gonna

1389
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:32,360
learn everything I need to do if

1390
01:08:37,450 --> 01:08:34,850
something happens for me and my kid so

1391
01:08:39,459 --> 01:08:37,460
there's a lot of motives behind that you

1392
01:08:41,229 --> 01:08:39,469
are mind blowing and you're so versatile

1393
01:08:45,459 --> 01:08:41,239
and you're so freakin smart and you're

1394
01:08:49,059 --> 01:08:45,469
hilarious hilarious comedian but I don't

1395
01:09:00,400 --> 01:08:49,069
like standing up sitting down writing

1396
01:09:02,559 --> 01:09:00,410
books lately you are so I just I love

1397
01:09:06,849 --> 01:09:02,569
everything that you do and I love the

1398
01:09:09,220 --> 01:09:06,859
spirit I mean honestly the people you

1399
01:09:14,019 --> 01:09:09,230
really are I have thank you so much for

1400
01:09:15,579 --> 01:09:14,029
coming on this show you know people

1401
01:09:18,039 --> 01:09:15,589
gotta go to yours with your sight Marie

1402
01:09:20,410 --> 01:09:18,049
D Jones com

1403
01:09:23,559 --> 01:09:20,420
you got a gazillion projects coming out

1404
01:09:25,329 --> 01:09:23,569
TV shows films and books and I don't

1405
01:09:25,660 --> 01:09:25,339
know maybe you'll make cupcakes one day

1406
01:09:28,150 --> 01:09:25,670
too

1407
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:28,160
who knows it's not cook or bake to save

1408
01:09:34,499 --> 01:09:32,210
my life so where do you think will never

1409
01:09:37,630 --> 01:09:34,509
have to eat her cooking all right

1410
01:09:39,490 --> 01:09:37,640
opening any restaurants anytime soon all

1411
01:09:41,289 --> 01:09:39,500
right

1412
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:41,299
we've come to the bottom of another show

1413
01:09:45,309 --> 01:09:42,799
remember you could catch me here every

1414
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:45,319
Friday 8:00 p.m. central 9 p.m. Eastern

1415
01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:46,250
you've been listening to me how do you

1416
01:09:50,050 --> 01:09:47,839
house the outlander remembering always

1417
01:09:51,190 --> 01:09:50,060
if it's weird we're here good night

1418
01:10:07,380 --> 01:09:51,200
everybody

1419
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:07,390
[Music]

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01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:09,530
okay keep your eyes closed okay